Hi Coop
Right now, 10% is possible (I got 9.81%), but you have to try really hard to find a dealer that's willing to do that. I was under the same impression that big dealers want to move their 16s and I can easily get 12%. Surprisingly, they still are holding out.
To get that 10 to 12% discount, I think you will have to wait for a few more months. Like you said, when large shipments of 17s come in.